MP Jack Layton pressured by Dawson College student

A quick review here. Dawson College is in Montreal Quebec. A few years back it was the target of opportunity for a mentally ill person. The medical authorities and his family missed what eventually turned into a murderous rampage. He was a licensed firearms owner. The licensing review and screening did not detect and prevent the situation either.

Licensing of a firearms owner/possessor and the Registry are separate issues. Licensing is NOT part of Bill C391. Licenses are reviewed regularily for anything that merits a suspension of a PAL holder’s license and ability to possess or acquire a firearm. 

The student in the article below is appealing to MP Jack Layton to keep the long gun registry. Mr. Kadhim survived being shot and has made progress in his life towards recovering. Very admirable. I would be more than happy to lend my voice to him if he decides that putting resources into the mental illness factor of violence is more of a priority. That effort would benefit more Canadians than the misdirection of resources into keeping an error-ridden list/feel-good non-solution that came to be as a knee-jerk reaction for the sake of the appearance of “doing something” and an opportunity for others with even less-noble intentions. That “reaction”, known as C68/The Firearms Act had another side effect. It created paper criminals out of responsible citizens and punished them/made them accountable for the misdeeds of others. 

A feel-good, non-solution, list that didn’t keep Mr. Kadhim or others from their injuries or the traumatic experience of being somewhere in the vicinity which, of course, extended to their families and persists unresolved to this day in some of them.   

The long gun registry had nothing to do with either preventing or detecting the crime that unfolded at Dawson College. It was touted by the then-Liberal government,  as “designed to save lives” as we “thought of the children”.

Debate or dissenting opinion then, as now, is stifled.

The only thing the long gun registry could do at Dawson (or anywhere else today or in the future) was possibly confirm or deny that the now-deceased shooter was the owner of the shotgun. The two other firearms used are classified as Restricted.

Bill C391 has nothing to do with or has any intent of making any changes to anything related to firearms classified as Restricted or Prohibited or the licencing of the possessor of those firearms classes.

I’ll say this again. Slowly. In one of Canada’s Official Languages. Restricted firearms, Prohibited firearms and licenses are NOT part of Bill C391.

They are a separate issue that isn’t part of any tabled legislation for debate, discussion or vote. Typical Restricted or Prohibited firearms include handguns. Those have been registered since 1934 in Canada. Ownership of some classes of Prohibiteds has been impossible since the late 70’s. Acquiring a firearm has required a licence do so since the late 70’s, under the old FAC system.

MP Layton is entitled to hear from a Canadian citizen on an issue. It’s his elected job to represent and serve the Canadian public. I do sympathize with him though. Considering that some comments from interested parties, with considerable stakes in seeing C391 defeated, expressed their disappointment in the results of the Second vote and implied that his decision to respect the wishes of constituents, and the resulting vote, wasn’t acceptable to their organization’s goals.

I think MP Layton would end up in an awkward position if he whips the vote now. I have to give him respect for his previous position and decision, regarding C391’s Second vote, to respect democracy and voter wishes in Canada by not whipping the vote. I will also offer the opinion that, lately, he and his party have demonstrated a maturation that could allow at least a movement from “unofficial leader of the opposition” to a defacto Leader of the Opposition in the next election.

MP Layton can be quite savvy as a politician. I’m wondering if he’s considering acquiesing to the Bloc position and risk the potential reminder to the voters in the next election about the “Coalition” shenanigans. Would that dead albatross be worth one of the best potential shots in years his party has at forming the Official Opposition? 





Hayder Kadhim, un survivant de la fusillade du cégep Dawson qui est survenue en 2006.

Photo: PC


     La Presse Canadienne

Un survivant de la fusillade du cégep Dawson a demandé mardi au chef néo-démocrate Jack Layton de respecter la promesse qu’il lui a faite d’assurer le maintien du registre des armes à feu.

Hayder Kadhim s’était rendu à Ottawa peu de temps après le drame survenu en 2006. Tous les chefs des partis d’opposition lui avaient alors promis qu’ils ne laisseraient pas le gouvernement conservateur abolir le registre.

Mais à quelques semaines du vote sur le projet de loi privé C-391 de la députée conservatrice Candice Hoeppner, qui vise justement à éliminer l’enregistrement des armes de chasse et à supprimer les données actuellement incluses dans le registre, leur promesse semble fragile.

Lors du dernier vote sur ce projet de loi en novembre, en deuxième lecture, les conservateurs avaient tous voté en sa faveur, de même que 12 néo-démocrates et huit libéraux. Cela avait donné aux conservateurs la majorité dont ils avaient besoin pour permettre au projet de poursuivre sa route en comité.


Pour cette raison, le Bloc québécois a demandé à Michael Ignatieff et à Jack Layton d’imposer la ligne de parti lors du prochain vote pour que leurs députés se prononcent en faveur du maintien intégral du registre, lors d’un point de presse, mardi, à Ottawa, en compagnie de M. Khadim.

Et comme Michael Ignatieff semble avoir donné le mot d’ordre à ses députés de voter contre le projet de loi, il apparaît que la survie du registre dépend désormais des néo-démocrates.

Les audiences du comité sur la sécurité publique qui étudie justement ce projet de loi commencent mardi.

Google Translation :

Note: my French is very rusty and Google does mess up translations.

“…On Tuesday, a survivor of the Dawson College shooting asked NDP leader Jack Layton to respect the promise he made to maintain the Firearms Registry.

Hayder Kadhim went to Ottawa shortly after the tragedy occurred in 2006. All the leaders of the opposition parties had then promised they would not let the Conservative government abolish the registry.

But a few weeks after the vote on Private Member’s Bill C-391, brought forward by Conservative MP Candace Hoeppner and designed precisely to eliminate the registration of hunting weapons and delete data currently included in the registry, their promise seems fragile.

During the last vote on this bill in November, second reading, the Conservatives had all voted in favor, along with 12 New Democrats and eight Liberals. This gave the Conservatives the majority they needed to allow the Bill to proceed to committee.

For this reason, at a press briefing on Tuesday in Ottawa with Mr. Khadim, the Bloc Quebecois asked Michael Ignatieff and Jack Layton to impose the party line during the next vote, as the Bloc MPs are in favor of full maintenance of the registry.

And as Michael Ignatieff seems to have warned his MPs to vote against the bill, it appears that survival of the registry now depends on the NDP.

Committee hearings on public safety, that are studying this bill, began Tuesday. “


Colour me “shocked”  that the Bloc would want to tell other parties how to run their caucuses or try to influence other party MP’s to ignore their constituent’s wishes on a Private Member’s bill.

When the BQ forms a majority government in Canada? Their wishes might be entertained in the rest of Canada.



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